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PostPosted: Jul 27th, '17, 22:09 
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Understood. Just not possible to get it checked when it's not not mine yet and the owner is oveseas.

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PostPosted: Aug 19th, '17, 11:02 
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Good morning all,

Quick introduction, I'm currently not a TS, indeed I'm still a dark side sailor. I have a Top Hat 25, however due to a change in family circumstances (birth of my son) and an unfortunate realisation that because of how often we move a yacht requiring a mooring is no longer suitable for us. So we are slowly trying to sell our Top Hat and downsize a little to a large trailer sailor (currently have our eyes on a court 650).

Alas my wife doesn't like the idea of sleeping aboard so we are looking for something that I and my son (eventually) can go adventuring in and something that is equally at home doing a day trip and pulling into a bay and being able to wade ashore to set up camp for my wife.
When we upgraded the car, we already had the plan of moving to a trailer sailor so we bought a Pajero :) so towing weight isn't a huge concern.

As far as my sailing experience goes, I work at sea in the maritime industry so have an extremely good grounding in navigation and seamanship and I've been sailing on and off since my early teens.

Hopefully I've proved I'm not a bot and I look forward to being part of the conversation


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PostPosted: Aug 19th, '17, 12:21 
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Welcome to the forum. You will find a wealth of information on here and most of it will be helpful. :lol:

Had a Top hat myself once. One of the first ones made of diagonal ply. Great sailing boat.

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PostPosted: Aug 19th, '17, 12:43 
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Welcome Alyosius,
This is a good site for any sailing person, be they beginners or old salts like yourself.

In a way you are starting again as my guess is that you have lots of experience in every type of sailing boat except "trailer sailers".

Going back to your stage of life when I had a 6 month old daughter and got the desire to go sailing, my long term ambition was also to take the family for some adventures and to camp on board one day. My spouse was not over keen but came to like it as long as things didn't get too frantic. It is quite hard if your wife doesn't like the idea, but as you say, short adventures should still be OK as your family grows.

For families the availability of a toilet and a stable boat are big pluses especially if sleeping on board is planned. A medium sized boat such as Court 650 should fit the bill in that regard.

If you don't want to be the fastest boat on the water, aim for a stable, dry boat instil confidence in your family members. No TS will be as stable as the Tophat but some are very solid. Look at the ballast ratios.

I ended up owning over a dozen TS from 14' to 25' and you may find, as I did that your needs change as the years go by. If you are really keen and strong enough, the really big boats like the South Coast 25 and RL28 are superb cruisers but very heavy to tow and take a long time to rig and launch. There are folk on TSP who manage these 3 tonne rigs happily and use some clever devices and some patience to drag them around. But in general boats in the 18' to 22' range might be better for starters.

I could go on (as I tend to) but as you refine your thoughts, just ask the questions and you will get plenty of advice here which you can filter yourself.

Good luck,

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PostPosted: Dec 24th, '17, 19:36 
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Hi! I gather I need to introduce myself, so...

I live in Adelaide where I'm stuck teaching at UniSA. I've been around boats for most of my life, but wouldn't claim to be particularly skilled as a sailor. I still remember my father bring home an NS 14 when I was young, after taking us out on beach cats he used to hire and crewing out of the Pt Adelaide yacht club. After a couple of seasons with the NS, he purchased an Austral 20 which we sailed for about three-four seasons. That was sold, and he returned to crewing, while I picked up my first boat - an aluminium OTB cat I used to sail out of Brighton.

A few years ago my family purchased a 34 ft keelboat, which they mainly use for sailing the gulf. I crewed for a while, but I've been wanting to go further afield than we were doing in her - we never really had the time to do more than 2-5 day cruises, limiting us to Gulf St Vincent. Thus I've been looking for a couple of months, and finally gave in with a Matilda 20. Not one of the boats on my shortlist, but for various reasons it's been on the radar while I've been looking, and I like the condition of this one. I guess I'll see how she goes.

So that's it. I'm picking her up over the next two days, and hope to be in the water before long. I'm incredibly appreciative of this forum, in part because whenever I spotted a boat I hadn't heard of before there was always an old post discussing it, and in part because the "for sale" thread was invaluable in making sure I hadn't missed anything.


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PostPosted: Dec 24th, '17, 21:03 
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Bilby wrote:
Hi! I gather I need to introduce myself, so...

I live in Adelaide where I'm stuck teaching at UniSA. I've been around boats for most of my life, but wouldn't claim to be particularly skilled as a sailor. I still remember my father bring home an NS 14 when I was young, after taking us out on beach cats he used to hire and crewing out of the Pt Adelaide yacht club. After a couple of seasons with the NS, he purchased an Austral 20 which we sailed for about three-four seasons. That was sold, and he returned to crewing, while I picked up my first boat - an aluminium OTB cat I used to sail out of Brighton.

A few years ago my family purchased a 34 ft keelboat, which they mainly use for sailing the gulf. I crewed for a while, but I've been wanting to go further afield than we were doing in her - we never really had the time to do more than 2-5 day cruises, limiting us to Gulf St Vincent. Thus I've been looking for a couple of months, and finally gave in with a Matilda 20. Not one of the boats on my shortlist, but for various reasons it's been on the radar while I've been looking, and I like the condition of this one. I guess I'll see how she goes.

So that's it. I'm picking her up over the next two days, and hope to be in the water before long. I'm incredibly appreciative of this forum, in part because whenever I spotted a boat I hadn't heard of before there was always an old post discussing it, and in part because the "for sale" thread was invaluable in making sure I hadn't missed anything.


Welcome Bilby - presumably you bought the Matilda from Murray Bridge? Look forward to some reports from you as you get to know your new baby.

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PostPosted: Dec 24th, '17, 23:32 
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Peter Yates wrote:
Welcome Bilby - presumably you bought the Matilda from Murray Bridge? Look forward to some reports from you as you get to know your new baby.


That was the one. There was also the one in Pt Lincoln recently. That said, it won't feel like I've purchased her until she's in the water, or at least parked outside the house.

I was originally looking at a couple of different models, but the Matilda fits what I'm looking for, and hopefully will be forgiving enough. Very different to the family's Columbia 34, with the massive freeboard the Columbia has. The Investigators were my first choice, but I've swapped that for a bit more length, a galley and separate head, which made my wife very happy.



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