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PostPosted: Apr 3rd, '17, 07:56 
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Hi all, total new sailer just recently bought a trail able sailer.

We own a hartos marina with a red hull and white top stalked smokey joe.

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Welcome Pete,
Your Tapatalk intro was indeed "Orrible".

Can you tell us again what sort of yacht you have and what a "white top stalked smokey joe" is? I just wish my boat had one :)

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PostPosted: Apr 3rd, '17, 08:09 
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Sorry about auto correct.

Boat is a " hartos marina"
19' glass hullImage

Has a swing keel .

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PostPosted: Apr 3rd, '17, 10:20 
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Welcome to our humble site Orrible.

You have another boart that most of us here have never heard of.

Where are you located?


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PostPosted: Apr 3rd, '17, 11:01 
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Based in goolwa sa. Locally built boat . I only know of 4 .


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PostPosted: Apr 3rd, '17, 13:38 
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I remember seeing a couple of them in the Marina at Goolwa for hire in 1996 or early 1997 (weekend in Victor Harbour tacked onto a work trip to Adelaide). I liked the look of them and wondered why I hadn't seen them in Victoria. I bought my first trailer sailer, a Dennis, soon afterwards.

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PostPosted: Apr 3rd, '17, 14:21 
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They are a nice boat. Two of them race locally. The one in the distance in my photo was in fleet at the marina. I believe Andrew made two from the molds for his rental fleet. ImageImage

At least one of these is a marina

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PostPosted: Apr 3rd, '17, 14:22 
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Second one is


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PostPosted: Apr 8th, '17, 20:53 
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G'Day All,
I have finally got fed up with lounge chair sailing and am in the process of looking for a TS around 20 feet a fit 73 year old can sail single handed . Golf just does not do it for me as sailing did.
Even though it will stay in the water I need a lifting keel for where it will be moored.
I have owned a few yachts ( many many moons ago) the last being a 3/4 tonner which I raced extensively.
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Hi, thanks for all the informative posts over the years. I am learning a lot about trailering a small boat here. Having come from the dark side (keelers) I am reasonably happy with the bit where the boat is in the water, but the whole trailering part is still a bit terrifying for me..

I have a 23 foot Norwalk island sharpie, and I am based in Hobart.

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PostPosted: May 27th, '17, 20:27 
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Hi Tezze, Hi Ben, welcome to you both.
Ben - that's a beautiful boat.
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PostPosted: May 27th, '17, 22:34 
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Thanks Mel, just don't get too close, its a lovely 10 foot finish, not so flash on close inspection. Ive just done a pretty big refit, and still have a big list of jobs to complete before I can spend a few nights away.

She is fast and a huge amount of fun to sail, although quite tender in a blow and she doesn't have the room inside that many other 23 foot TS's seem to have.

I am looking forward most to playing in thin water, and at last being able to get close to the beach, and exploring up rivers and inlets that are too shallow for the deep keelers I am used to. Who knows, might get her to gippsland one day..



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PostPosted: May 28th, '17, 10:53 
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Hi Ben, I guess you would have read the Charlie Fisher articles at http://www.nisboats.com/mainpages/news.html
They are a great read.

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PostPosted: May 28th, '17, 12:40 
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I have, and they are a great read. I am looking forward to seeing how she stacks up to the reputation. I do have a good feeling about her already on the couple of sails I have managed so far. I Can't wait to get her out reefed down in a decent bit of wind and chop and see what she can do.


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We had one at our club briefly and they joined us in a passage race. Admittedly the winds were flukey and the wind gods did seem to favour him mightily, but by the time we all got back to the ramp he was out, packed up and long gone. A pretty cool boat.

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Thanks Mob, thats very encouraging. So far I have nothing to compare her with speed wise, but I am impressed by the ease that she reaches hull speed. Down wind she just slips along with barely a fuss, and a very old 2hp outboard on half throttle pushes her easily at 4.5-5 knots, and 5.5 at full noise (literally!). I guess this is the part of the tradeoffs with all things, and in this case the narrow waterline beam makes her much more tender than your average TS.

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G'Day All

I am a new member, and we're about to take ownership this weekend of our Ultimate 18. We're based in Melbourne Eastern Suburbs and will be adventuring in Western Port, PPB and the "Lakes".

While I have just joined TSP, I have spent countless hours reading all the posts, reviews, comments and opinions as to which boat is best. After 6 months of searching we decided on the U18 mostly for: Ease of towing, rigging, launching, retrieving, single handed sailing and storing and still having a good cabin size to accommodate our family.

Thanks for the wealth on invaluable information and hope to meet some of you out there sometime.

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In-the-wave wrote:
...we decided on the U18 mostly for: Ease of towing, rigging, launching, retrieving, single handed sailing and storing and still having a good cabin size to accommodate our family.


There is a good reason there are so many Ultimate 18s about!

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Someone will be along shortly to show you the secret handshake! (or some of us have TSP stickers and burgees)
Have you contacted the Ultimate association too? They're fairly active in Melbourne.

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PostPosted: Jun 20th, '17, 17:08 
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Welcome Duncan. Did you buy the U18 from Castlemaine?

The TSP handshake is so secret that even I don't know what it is. Maybe it was the one Zebedee showed me when I was helping him leap from the stern of his boat onto my rickety jetty in Duck Arm :lol:

Hope to see you down the lakes some day. My next visit is in late July.

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If they showed you the secret handshake they would have to kill you :lol:

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It was a handshake? Then why was I made to learn a secret dance? Actually, it kinda looks like the hokey pokey.


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Peter Yates wrote:
Welcome Duncan. Did you buy the U18 from Castlemaine?


That's the one. Handover this Sunday.



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PostPosted: Jul 26th, '17, 18:25 
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Hi everyone. (Reposting as I posted in the wrong place :-( )
I am in Melbourne and have just purchased a Jarcat6 Trailer Sailer Catamaran.
It's a 6.5 meter trailerable (obviously) Cat that was built from plans in Perth. Never been launched.
I've been lurking on this forum and have already gleaned some great info/tips.
I'm currently chasing Insurance and Storage as I can't have it at home for more than a few days at a time (on the front lawn).
It should be coming over to Melbourne from Perth at the start of September.
I'm a bit of a novice having sailed a 16 foot wooden hulled beast 40 odd years ago.
I re-caught the sailing bug after chartering a bareboat on the Whitsundays in 2014.
I'm reading lots and should have some good support here from a Jarcat owner that I have already met.
Have yet to get my marine and radio license.
Other half is NOT a keen sailer but is prepared to go along with my new-found interest if it's "safe"!
Our target is to be confident with the boat for a Whitsundays re-visit in mid 2019.
Any other Jarcatters or Catamarans?
I've also joined the Jarcat yahoo list.

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Johny wrote:
Hi everyone. (Reposting as I posted in the wrong place :-( )

Don't panic, one of the mods will usually generally manoeuvre obviously misplaced posts/threads into more suitable places.

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I'm currently chasing Insurance and Storage as I can't have it at home for more than a few days at a time (on the front lawn).

Insurance: Start by contacting Professional Insurance Brokers in Monbulk. One of the principals (now retired) was a trailer sailer sailor and they have specialised in trailer sailers for many years. Even if you don't go with them, you'll get a competitive benchmark to compare other policies.

Parking: You can park a vehicle or trailer up to 7.5m on public streets in accordance with signage, etc. Once you get past 7.5m, you can only park for one hour; however depending upon where you live, your neighbours' and your council's attitudes, etc, you may find that parking on the street or nature strip either medium term (days to weeks) or long term may be viable. How long is the Jarcat mast? Can you get the whole lot under 7.5m? Do you live in a Collingwood or in a Pakenham?

Commercial storage: Wilson's storage quoted me $200 per month for commercial storage with 24 hour access for a 6.5m boat with 9m long mast requiring a 9m space. I believe that St Kilda Marina charges similar prices.

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I re-caught the sailing bug after chartering a bareboat on the Whitsundays in 2014.
I'm reading lots and should have some good support here from a Jarcat owner that I have already met.
Have yet to get my marine and radio license.
Other half is NOT a keen sailer but is prepared to go along with my new-found interest if it's "safe"!
Our target is to be confident with the boat for a Whitsundays re-visit in mid 2019.

Did the admiral experience sailing the Whitsundays with you?
If she's got zero experience or is particularly nervous, take things very gently, one bad experience can burn any chance you've got of successfully introducing her to sailing. A really good first outing for nervous crew is to leave the mast at home, launch at Newport and to motor up either the Yarra or the Maribyrnong (see the ParksVic guide at the link). You're never more than about 50 metres from land, there are no flappy sails causing confusion and fear and there's plenty to see. It gives people an opportunity to get used to being on the boat before exciting stuff happens. You can get up the Yarra as far as the Collingwood Children's farm just short of Johnston Street and up the Maribyrnong as far as the Afton Street footbridge in Essendon.

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PostPosted: Jul 27th, '17, 13:29 
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Did the admiral experience sailing the Whitsundays with you?
Oh what a long story that turned out to be. The whole trip went belly up the night before we left Melbourne as my 15 years old son was so ill he was unable to travel. We (22 yr old daughter and me) picked him and "admiral" up from Hamilton Island marina after 3 days sailing (my first docking in a Fountaine Pahot Mahe 36 - and very successful) but the trip was already marred and she really didn't get into it - except for snorkelling.
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If she's got zero experience or is particularly nervous, take things very gently, one bad experience can burn any chance you've got of successfully introducing her to sailing.
Anyway, thanks for the first trip advice. While I'd love the launch to be with full rigging I'll think seriously about it. I really want the first experience with this boat to be absolutely positive as I have a few brownie points I have to get back due to a minor incident with a 16 foot toy Cat on a recent Vanuatu holiday - It wasn't so much the capsize - it was me re-assuring her constantly that it wasn't possible (3rd time we had taken it out). I have lots of reasons and excuses but it was just bad sailing in the end.
She is very supportive about the Jarcat but also tentative so I'm imposing lots of rules on me - like no Genoa and always reefing early. We wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't for her saying "yes, do it".

Storage - the street is possible but not good security wise (and the neighbours would hate me). I have just found storage 30 minutes from home so that's covered. It can sit on the front lawn for a few days at a time for working on it.
I just gave up on one insurance company after this:
"Hi John,
For home built vessels, we would need to see a boat condition report from a qualified marine surveyor or shipwright."

So I will contact PIB but it will have to be in a few weeks when I get get Outboard details from the seller.
Thanks heaps for the reply and advice.

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PostPosted: Jul 27th, '17, 15:33 
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I just gave up on one insurance company after this:
"Hi John,
For home built vessels, we would need to see a boat condition report from a qualified marine surveyor or shipwright."


This is quite normal procedure. For good reason as well I may add after seeing some home built wonders around. :lol:

Coops.

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