Highway robbery for spare parts

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Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Frank Peters » Aug 21st, '17, 13:08

Hi All,
When you plan winter outboard maintenance don’t be surprised by price for basic spare parts.
Like $50 for genuine Yamaha 9.9 water impeller is a highway robbery.
After market is $6.50.
Price from manufacturer is $2.50.
It is recommended to change water impeller every time the outboard is serviced.
Friend from the early days did not believe in servicing his outboard (I do) and after 9 years the impeller gave up.
He only sails on Lakes like we do. So he saved himself $450 just on impeller.
I don’t like his ideas and rather spend money, but I don’t like to be robbed so bluntly.
I suggest establishing site for spare parts recommend outlets, mainly on line.
Regards Frank

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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Peter Yates » Aug 21st, '17, 13:37

How about $12 each for 4mm screws for a Ford roof rail? :evil:
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by zebedee » Aug 21st, '17, 13:54

You want highway robbery?

I sold a small speedboat on ebay for $207.50.

They charged me a final value fee of $66.
That's a commission of 32%
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Cooper » Aug 21st, '17, 14:13

Frank Peters wrote:Hi All,
When you plan winter outboard maintenance don’t be surprised by price for basic spare parts.
Like $50 for genuine Yamaha 9.9 water impeller is a highway robbery.
After market is $6.50.
Price from manufacturer is $2.50.
What do you mean by the highlighted statement Frank. Is that Yamaha's recommended retail price?

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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by sailboatmike » Aug 21st, '17, 15:47

Yamaha are renown for being expensive for spare parts and that was information from a Mercury/Yamaha dealer.

Stainless steel screws for a bracket on the Mercury (3/16 UNF x 3/4" if I remember), Mercury list price $4.00ea, Price from Dandy bolts 40 cents each

Plastic clips to hold a throttle rods on the Mercury - maybe .00001 cent in plastic and they are common on many of their motors so die cost would be well spread against the 10s of thousands they have made, Mercury list price $9.50ea BUT you have to buy them in a 2 pack, so $19.00

It sort of makes car dealer parts look value for money in comparison
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Tinggu » Aug 21st, '17, 17:07

I'll sneak hear as Messers Google and Yahoo don't seem interested in Frank's post.

A mate took the door panel off his late model Mazda3 and broke two plastic clips in the process. $9.60 each.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Frank Peters » Aug 21st, '17, 18:11

Hi All,

The competition in our advanced capitalist system does not bring prices down.
Government body like ACCC are short of money and people.
They are really busy with many rip offs.
Smart technology is used by big companies and there is no protection for normal working class people.
My Nissan Patrol oil filter is $40 in Repco, sell online for $6.50 and in Traralgon auto parts shop $13.
I hope to get more information where to get outboard parts from reliable source for reasonable price.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by INMA » Aug 21st, '17, 19:58

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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by pdandy » Aug 21st, '17, 20:41

Ok, question for the masses - how much would you want to be paid to sit in a store in Moe waiting to serve Frank , and then to sell him those parts?

Seriously, only $43.50 to cover the shops costs for selling Frank that part? Bargain!
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by INMA » Aug 21st, '17, 21:39

Pdandy, you are correct plus the need to warehouse all the stock that does not move.

Frank, its the same as car and truck spare parts, an alternator that costs $50 in the factory costs $2,000 as a spare part over the counter. That is an extreme example that I have dealt with in the past.

Buying from China has risks.

Get use to it.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by sailboatmike » Aug 21st, '17, 22:47

Ok, new starter motor for my Jeep quoted $650 from Jeep dealer and they didnt stock it, so they had to order it, so the dealer wasnt spending money keeping stock.

OEM between $450 and $500 at Repco etc.
OEM EBAY $250
None OEM $135

Needless too say I run a none OEM now, would of bought OEM off Ebay but timeline didnt permit

Long term practice is for retail to mark up 100% from their cost price, this covers all the overheads and wages, specialist stores normally work on a higher markup as its considered you will get better service and advice in a specialist store and their turnover is generally less
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by INMA » Aug 21st, '17, 22:55

Mike dealers don't hold much stock but the parent companies do hold stock in Australia and overseas, that costs money that needs to be recovered from the sale of the spare parts.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by pdandy » Aug 21st, '17, 23:01

:roll: You're both missing the point - some poor person has to work in Moe AND deal with Frank talking about air cooled motors not needing impellers
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Post by INMA » Aug 21st, '17, 23:02

You had me at Moe.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by sailboatmike » Aug 22nd, '17, 07:57

pdandy wrote::roll: You're both missing the point - some poor person has to work in Moe AND deal with Frank talking about air cooled motors not needing impellers
And have you seen the price of moccasins in Moe, high fashion is never cheap not to mention the psychologist bills after a visit by Frank :D
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Frank Peters » Aug 22nd, '17, 12:07

Hi All,

Last week I did not want to wait 2 hours to see my doctor, so went to doctors on line, excellent service, and it is instant and free.
So spare parts on line have only one drawback.
It will close down uncompetitive businesses and we may have less millionaires.
Look how many shopping centers in USA closed down and it will come here too.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by pdandy » Aug 22nd, '17, 14:12

Frank Peters wrote:Hi All,

Last week I did not want to wait 2 hours to see my doctor, so went to doctors on line, excellent service, and it is instant and free.
So spare parts on line have only one drawback.
It will close down uncompetitive businesses and we may have less millionaires.
Look how many shopping centers in USA closed down and it will come here too.
Regards Frank
Touche , although I guess if your health isn't worth a 2 hour wait / as much as an impeller and your relationship with your personal doc means so little to you...good luck when you REALLY need care.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by 2nd wind » Aug 22nd, '17, 14:29

The sad news is Jerry Lewis has passed on. The good news is i can still get all the comedy i want reading posts like this
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Bligh » Aug 22nd, '17, 16:01

I like the sound of doctors online, do they provide certificates as well.
Say aaahhh while sticking a webcam down your throat.
And think of the possibilities of painless online physio.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by INMA » Aug 22nd, '17, 16:46

I searched online doctors and got google adverts for online funerals.

Google are so smart.
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Warrigal150 » Aug 22nd, '17, 17:19

Do they have online dentists?
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by sailboatmike » Aug 22nd, '17, 21:18

I think a online proctologist would be a interesting thought :lol:
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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by Cooper » Aug 22nd, '17, 21:28

I think I may have seen some websites about those. :shock:

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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by zebedee » Aug 22nd, '17, 21:35

Frank Peters wrote:So spare parts on line have only one drawback.
3d printers will solve that drawback!

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Re: Highway robbery for spare parts

Post by GKandCC » Aug 22nd, '17, 23:46

INMA wrote:I searched online doctors and got google adverts for online funerals.

Google are so smart.
INMA you better hope that those online funeral adverts were there coincidently, not because google already has a copy of your medical history :|

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