Callisto restoration

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Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 15th, '13, 09:37

We drove down to Paynesville and picked up Callisto this week.
It was a 3200km round trip.
We'll get started on the restoration soon.
First job is a few hours with a water blaster.
As you can see we left the trailer behind. It was too rusty.
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by Tymadman » Feb 15th, '13, 10:31

Well done Geoff. Was the cabin left open while stored or was it reasonably well closed up?
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by MelN » Feb 15th, '13, 10:39

And so it begins ... :-)
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Callisto "before" photos (BIG)

Post by zebedee » Feb 15th, '13, 12:09

These are the photos of Callisto I took in January and sent to Geoff to help him decide if he was interested. I initially put them in their own thread, but with the images shrunk, they're not as big as I feared so I've moved them over here.

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Post by zebedee » Feb 15th, '13, 12:11

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Post by zebedee » Feb 15th, '13, 12:13

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by pdandy » Feb 15th, '13, 13:08

That's an impressive trailer you put under her, what's it from? Looking forward to watching the rebuild.
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by MurrayF » Feb 15th, '13, 13:14

Well done Geoff... we look forward to the story unfolding.
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 15th, '13, 14:37

Neil, it was closed up and no water inside, so either it doesn't rain at Paynesville or the deck doesn't leak. Or scenario 3....there was water in it but it all ran out through holes in the hull.

Hi pdandy, the trailer is from the Airwave 9.9m yacht.

Hi Murray. This one will take a while. Luckily we have lots of Polypanel to make bunks and bathrooms inside, thanks to you.

Hi Mel...another saga!

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by MurrayF » Feb 15th, '13, 18:14

Save a bit for my anchor locker mod, please Geoff! :wink:

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by pdandy » Feb 15th, '13, 18:36

Geoff, I thought you'd sold the airwave? Every so often I'd go drool at the add then one day it was gone?
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 15th, '13, 18:53

pdandy wrote:Geoff, I thought you'd sold the airwave? Every so often I'd go drool at the add then one day it was gone?
Re the Airwave, I did try to sell it some time back, but no takers, and now that I have a friend who lets me leave it on his pontoon at Runaway Bay, I think I'll hang onto it indefinitely.

Callisto has been cleaned off with a water blaster.
Doesn't look quite so bad now!

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 15th, '13, 18:56

MurrayF wrote:Save a bit for my anchor locker mod, please Geoff! :wink:
plenty of panel here for your anchor well Murray!

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by zebedee » Feb 15th, '13, 19:38

GeoffR wrote:Callisto has been cleaned off with a water blaster.
Doesn't look quite so bad now!
At a distance in a low resolution photo she looks pretty good! That's got to be the fastest easiest progress in the whole project, it's all hard work now.
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 16th, '13, 18:13

We lowered the keel today and cut it off halfway up with a metal cutting wheel.
The construction is solid fibreglass filler with steel punchings, and the lead bulb on the bottom.

Fortunately this keel has the same longitudinal dimension as the standard Seaway keel, so we can use the existing centrecase, cut to the standard height inside the boat, with stiffening knees.
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by pdandy » Feb 16th, '13, 19:26

That must have been very therapuetic. I might go visit my boat tommorrow...just to make sure you fergot the chainsaw when you went to Paynesville.
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by Mojo » Feb 17th, '13, 17:08

Would have been interesting to see how the bulb keel version went compared to a standard seaway.

Looking forward to seeing the progress.

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 17th, '13, 19:33

Mojo wrote:Would have been interesting to see how the bulb keel version went compared to a standard seaway.

Looking forward to seeing the progress.
yeah Mojo I agree, with its bulb keel and oversized rig, masthead kite etc, it would have been faster than the standard boat.

However we'll put a standard 120kg keel,(we have a keel mould now!),put the 500kg + ballast back in the hull, (there seems to still be about 100kg in there at the base of the mast), take the rig back to standard, and try to make it standard in every way we can, apart from our modified interior.
We (our friend who now owns it, and we here) want it to be a good example of the original Elite model, hopefully looking brand new, and a good cruising companion for Volcano.

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by SeawayVolcano » Feb 18th, '13, 13:28

Love it Geoff. I'm looking forward to seeing the way she comes together.
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 18th, '13, 19:08

Spiderguy wrote:Geoff,
Were the steel punchings showing signs of rust ? and were there any signs of resin fracture or keel fattening ?
It looks like the keel was just a slow setting polyester resin and talc mix, without longitudinal supports. The keel relied on the strength of its skin ?. They were brave hanging a bulb off that.
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Hi SG,
the steel punchings were pretty much as they were put in I think, slight surface rust, but protected by being embedded properly in the fibreglass.
No signs of fracturing or stress, but who knows how much this keel has been used.
Although it fell down under its own weight, it's stiff in the centrecase which is slightly ominous; I couldn't pull it up with the rope at 1:1 on a winch, and had to jack it up from underneath, but I suspect the chainblock outside the shed will rip it out when the time comes.
I'll be glad to see the last of it.

The keel-case dimensions suit the standard Seaway keel, so it's just a matter of cutting the top off and discarding it, and glassing the standard dimension knees onto the side of the case in the saloon there.

Luckily we have the mould for the Seaway Elite Sliding hatch and envelope, as the existing one is non-standard and compromised by a large cutout for the keel top exit.
Also we have the mould for the Blazer cockpit pedestal which will be used, and of course the mould for the standard keel, which we'll make with 120kg of ballast.

Another job is the windows...the cabin sides have had oversized window cut-outs made for some strange reason.(It looks really bad!) We'll have to screw a flat panel on the outside and lay in fibreglass to reconstitute the cabin sides, so standard cutouts can be made & standard windows can be attached. I don't think we'll inset them as I think the inset windows don't look as good as the proud windows like the ones on the Ross 780.

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 27th, '13, 09:41

all the deck fittings have been stripped off.
Next is to sand the whole deck, and start filling holes.
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by Cruiser » Feb 27th, '13, 15:29

GeoffR wrote:....................Callisto has been cleaned off with a water blaster.
Doesn't look quite so bad now!.........
GeoffR
Interested in that comment Geoff. Can a Karcher type water blaster do any damage to a deck? Is it possible to take ingrained mould off non-skid or is that too heavy a treatment?
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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Feb 27th, '13, 18:59

Cruiser wrote:
GeoffR wrote:....................Callisto has been cleaned off with a water blaster.
Doesn't look quite so bad now!.........
GeoffR
Interested in that comment Geoff. Can a Karcher type water blaster do any damage to a deck? Is it possible to take ingrained mould off non-skid or is that too heavy a treatment?
I think a consumer water blaster like a Karcher, Gurney, Bosch etc. is unlikely to damage a fibreglass deck, except for blowing out any pre-existing voids in the gelcoat finish, which you may as well know about anyway, and fix.
Perhaps a Marina strength heavy duty water blaster might damage some part of a deck if it was inadvertantly concentrated on one spot. And repairing nonskid is difficult!

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Re: Callisto restoration

Post by GeoffR » Mar 2nd, '13, 16:24

Callisto's deck has been sanded.
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every bolt hole in the deck has been ground out ready for each one to be fibreglassed.
(If the holes are just filled with gelcoat filler, shrinkage of the filler makes a poor seal, and many of them would leak.)
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