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 Post subject: 50 Knots to windward
PostPosted: Jun 7th, '16, 10:16 
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In planning mode for sailing holiday over coming months and seeking suggestions to avoid problems

Plan A
To mix things up a bit and try not to travel over the same ground twice
Thinking of express from Colac to Mackay via A39 and A5 with overnight stops at Parkes NSW and Miles QLD

Attempting to break journey down to sensible fuel and rest stops hoping to find LPG available at these stops as have a LPG range of approximately 300 Kms but do have the option of ULP being duel fuel vehicle.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. :D

Once reaching Bowen after some time exploring the area the return will be via the coast with possible stops at Yepoon / Gladstone , Hervey bay , perhaps Brisbane , Yamba , Port Stephens , Lake Mac and Cowan / Hawkesbury then home.

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With the reputation the whitsunday's have regarding extended periods of unsuitable sailing winds I was contemplating consulting wind forecasts for likely visit somewhere around Goondawindi - Moonie and if necessary detour to Hervey Bay as a backup plan. Just a thought. :?


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Knots to windward
PostPosted: Jun 7th, '16, 11:05 
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I've done similar trips twice, I've learnt.

A cruise control is a wonderful thing, especially when travelling north on the Hume. The coast road up to Brisbane works for me, good freeways and steady traffic. The toll road through Sydney was an evil necessity.

I plan to get to the Whitsundays in 3 days but end up doing it in 4days, some days are long.

LPG should not be a problem on the Hume but cost will be high.

We were stuck in Airlie Beach for a couple of weeks and decided to head north inland to Burdekin Falls Dam which turned out to be nice, very isolated and needing an EPIRB (we did not have one).

INMA is lighter than the Boomerang so we were cautious about the weather. We eventually discovered we were happy motoring in conditions that kept the charter yachts at anchor.

We avoided exposed anchorages that would test the small yachts and found we had enough mobility to get between good anchorages most days. The anchorages are huge so its easy to spend a few days in the dingy exploring if the weather is difficult outside.

We tended to motor or motorsail because INMA lacked the stability to tow the dingy under sail.

If you want to borrow my dingy and motor, just ask. A good dingy is essential for the Whitsundays, hard dingies are better than inflatables and a motor is needed to explore the many kilometres inside the anchorages.

After a few weeks in the central Whitsundays, we headed south planning to stop a few times before reaching home.

The Myall Lakes is a good week of play taking advantage of the fresh water to rinse the salt out of the system.

Can’t say I was excited by Hervey Bay, I’d drive the extra day to the Whitsundays before heading back to Hervey Bay or spend an extra week on the various reefs.

I definitely need to do the Hawksbury, it looks wonderful and so many good destinations close to each other. The dingy would be handy from what I can see.

Then Sydney Harbour, not sure if it suits me but I have not done it.

All the other places you mentioned look good, there are some big rivers up north that look like fun.

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8 months ago there was no gas available between Miles and Rockhampton. If you want to spend time around Bundaberg I can look after your car and trailer. Can't allow my favourite vehicle to get salt spray on it.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Knots to windward
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Geeze Greg , ease up this bus has no AC or PS , cruise control is me. :lol:
Thanks for your suggestion of the Dinghy but already have it covered by inflatable and small outboard.
The Myall's are certainly on the list.
Sydney harbour would be nice but not on top of the list.

Tipsy , that was the section i was concerned about.
I have an android app (Fuel Map) that seems useful for searching fuel stops which reckons Theodore Qld has a United fuels outlet selling LPG ?
It lists their phone numbers so easy enough to check
Its your first hand experience I will count on.
Another fuel locator http://www.motorcharge.com.au/acceptance.aspx backs your finding.
These Apps etc are great if you have mobile data along the route , are you aware of the telstra or other telco coverage along these Highways ?
Hope to catch up on our way downhill , thanks for your offer. :)


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The sad truth is that LPG filling points are getting fewer in number in Qld. it seems that the powers that be would rather import expensive fuel rather than use what bubbles out of the ground for free in some places. I don't remember a United in Theodore , so you may be in luck there.
We have Aldi Mobile (telstra i think) . Coverage is not perfect but better than 80%, probably no worse than Rockhampton north.
If you are going to camp at Miles there is a spot just over the creek west of town. Toilets are on the northern side of the road but there is truck traffic there all night. The other side of the road is roomier and more peacefull.


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Having been a LPG user since…forever :roll:
Its demise astounds me , so far only seen the removal of one outlet in our area but understand its the way of the future :cry:


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Shane, fuel map can be permanently stored on your device just like wikicamps ( try turning off your internet and see if it works)

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pdandy wrote:
Shane, fuel map can be permanently stored on your device just like wikicamps ( try turning off your internet and see if it works)


So it does :shock:
Does not give the detailed maps like online ...if only i could link it to my offline Nokia "HERE" maps :?
Used it today filling up , displayed the correct price per litre and handy logging module to record fuel used :D

wikicamps sounds interesting...must look it up


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Shane, try " copilot" if you want an offline gps mapping program linked to the ability to search for petrol stations ( search via poi) . Unfortunately it's not free, but being able to download the maps onto your device at home and not be paying for data is a major bonus imho.

Wikicamps would be a good investment for you . It listed all the little campsites I know of around here - including the back to basics clearings in the bush with no facilities . You get the ability to screen by facilities / no generators allowed etc etc. There's no such thing as camping sites only the locals know about now :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: 50 Knots to windward
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Planning and preparation are now well advanced
From tomorrow it is packing and loading in readiness to depart express (due to lack of interesting places along the route) to shute harbour via plan A
Awaiting last minute purchases of charts , solar showers etc which should arrive shortly.
Its an interesting feeling embarking on 2500 km journey where you are miles from home and responsible for the outcome.
Trying to fit everything within the parameters (weight) is a challenge ...additional anchors , chain , power leads , increased solar capacity and refrigeration all need to be made room for ...dont forget the insect repellent and sandfly netting :?
luckily we can probably cut back on warm clothing...all in all i am sure it will be an experience to remember
so if you see us along the way say hello :D


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Have a great trip!

Re the solar panels, it's probably too late now but we picked up one of these on special (still expensive at half price) - 150w, folds into laptop size! Not really suitable for permanent installation, but I intend to fold it out when we camp for more than a few days. It fits perfectly across the pajero windscreen.

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Did this trip in 2001 with a rodeo ute and castle 650.

Parked overnight at road houses, the showers and toilets were cleaner than most caravan parks.

Watch out for roos.

Don't underestimate the amount of water you need to take.

If the winds are light you will use a fair bit of fuel as there are some long distances to travel (depending on your plans).

Remember to allow for storage of your rubbish onboard.

Have a great time, we did.

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Have a great trip!

Thanks Paul , i replaced my 30 year old 40 w "solarex" (paid $10 / w back then and it was 2nd hand)
with 100 w chinese @ $1 / w approx same weight and only slightly more area , the difference in quality is quite noticable
Then complimented with a 5 ah ctek 240 ac charger to look after the two 100 ah calcium batteries when on shore or in powered marina berth
I still use a regulator i built many years ago which is controlled with a picaxe micro which i can reprogram if necessary to take care of the foibles of the calcium batteries
ie 16 vdc every now and then.
So we are hoping the power needs will be met if the sun shines :)

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Watch out for roos.

Don't underestimate the amount of water you need to take.


Thanks John
Planning to not travel early or late hoping to avoid the roos...not sure if that will make any difference ?
We have stocked up on 20 lt solar shower bladders to compliment the on board tank and our plan is to alternate every few days between anchoring / mooring and serviced marina berths


After 10 years sailing around without insurance we took the plunge to enable entry to marinas...got $10 k on the boat and trailer with $10 mill public liability $300 excess , non racing , no breakdowns on rig , trailer , outboard ,sails etc from RACV over the phone for $253 PA
Now wondering about RACV "road side assist" to cover both car and boat/trailer ..even if its only for 1 Yr :wink:

It was funny when phoning about the insurance the operator noticed the age of the vehicles we already have insured with them and asked if we wanted to change to some sort of vintage vehicle insurance deal obviously unaware they are our daily drive :oops:


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Ready about ...
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Safe travels. You'll have a ball!!

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Keep us informed on the road trip if possible. If you have any problems I am sure that one of us will be near enough to assist.

Coops.

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Looks like we picked a good day to leave ...
Kids report its snowing at home 8-)
No warmer here at Jerilderie...thought it warmed up heading north :D

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2 million bucks of Leopard tank as display!!!!!! What a waste.

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May be they use the Leopard as a heavy duty tow truck, not sure which is better the tank or the boat, I have a weak spot for both

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2 million bucks of Leopard tank as display!!!!!! What a waste.

Better to use them as displays than to have to use them as they were intended.

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Tipsy we had a great day tacking downwind , what a difference a tail wind makes :lol:
I was tempted keep going on to Dubbo while the wind was favorable but exhaustion kicked in so stopped in Parkes.

We have noted our country towns along the way choka block with military hardware

Mike after 2 weeks of rain out here you may be better off with a boat .....there is water everywhere.


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