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Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by Jon » Nov 13th, '16, 20:19

After a lifetime of centreboards I now have a 1.55 m deep dagger board and I'm far more wary of hitting the bottom at speed. I'm looking for a cheap depthsounder.
I saw this wifi transducer sonarphone that works with Navonics (which I currently use on a tablet). Any body own one of these?

http://sonarphone.liveeditaurora.com/pages/learn-more

$150 US for a hardwired 12v transducer and wifi. I'm not really after the fishfinder but it has keel offset and im guessing the current depth will show up on navionics.

The ability to chart inland lakes on Navionics appeals to me. The only issue is the tablet his hard to see at times in bright light where a traditional depth gauge instrument is much easier to see and will always be ready for use ( once fitted)

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by bachus » Nov 13th, '16, 20:41

Do it kind sir.
Your depth measurements will go back to navionics and benefit the rest of us :)
This is where the Navionics sonar charts come from. Make sure you test all shallow areas though - again better for the rest of us.

Seriously, before I added the depth sensor to the 551s garmin plotter I too considered this option but visibility in bright sun was the reason I did not. The garmin is visible in bright sun. Tablet not - at the time I had an iPad 3.

Edit: I did consider mounting the iPad in the cabin shade on a swing arm but found the iPad overheated and shut down with continuous use in any sort of protective case. But the swing arm might have worked.
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by az100 » Nov 13th, '16, 21:17

A cheap b&w fish finder running on the navigation screen is the best depth gadget I ever had on my boat. The transducer shoots through the hull way forward and warns me *before* the boat is about to hit the bottom. Works down to less than 0.5m if motoring slowly. Big readout too, easy to see in daylight.

I would not want to use my tablet in the cockpit while under way.
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by Ukuri » Nov 13th, '16, 21:23

Surely you're kidding.
$150 for a "Smart" phone app c/w all the usual inadequacies such as battery life, hard to see in daylight, suspect water resistance etc.
When you can get something with a proven track record for $50 such as this
http://www.bcf.com.au/Product/Humminbir ... rom=571543

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by zebedee » Nov 13th, '16, 22:55

Ukuri wrote:... you can get something with a proven track record for $50 such as this
http://www.bcf.com.au/Product/Humminbir ... rom=571543
Just in case there is any doubt, this is the real thing:

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And it really is just $50.
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by Jon » Nov 14th, '16, 18:49

Ok, BCF it is.

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by rseydler » Nov 14th, '16, 19:49

So the manual doesn't state that you can have a large depth display. Might be worth playing with a demo unit.

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by Furstin » Nov 14th, '16, 19:57

I had the monochrome eagle barracuda, and you can change the view to show 1.5" numbers. About the same price.
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by JimJ » Nov 15th, '16, 22:24

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I did not know that the Hummingbird can now count the number of fish

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by GKandCC » Nov 16th, '16, 00:01

JimJ wrote:Image

I did not know that the Hummingbird can now count the number of fish
At a guess it looks like those numbers are the fish at various depths, deepest numbers (10) approach the 12 ft depth shown in large numbers, and they decrease towards the surface…the numbers are likely NOT the number of fish you will pull in regardless of your technology. Great priced depth sounder though…$50…how do they make it, ship it to Oz, pay any taxes, and still make a quid? These guys should be in charge of the World Bank and probably half the world's economies…yeah I know $5 per day employees.

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by mob » Nov 16th, '16, 07:53

12 feet, 74 degrees Fahrenheit

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by Davidjohn » Nov 16th, '16, 13:01

mob wrote:12 feet, 74 degrees Fahrenheit

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No good then, original poster's dagger board is a metric one :lol:
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by byrdsworth » Feb 8th, '17, 19:06

Hi all

Just installed this depth sounder ... http://www.sonarphone.mobi/

you mount the transducer either on the transom or shoot through the hull
then attach the control box where ever suits ...

it sets up a wireless network on your boat so you can read the depth via a smart phone or tablet ipad etc

you can use the included free app .. or you can have it asa split screen on navionics.

you could even have it on multiple devices if your crew has the app too

I'm yet to try it on the water ... I will report back when I do

install was fairly easy .... hardest part was cutting through the false floor to get to the actual hull
even that wasn't so bad

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by Ukuri » Feb 8th, '17, 21:29

byrdsworth wrote:Hi all

Just installed this depth sounder ... http:/i//www.sonarphone.mob


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And not a moment too soon either I suspect as I'm sure it will get a thorough workout on your upcoming Southport to QCYC trip.

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by elscotto » Feb 8th, '17, 22:37

Hey Byrds, let us know how it goes with the navionics app if you have it. I have a HDS-5 but would prefer a tablet/that thing you have. Only if it is as good though.
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by byrdsworth » Feb 9th, '17, 14:44

elscotto wrote:Hey Byrds, let us know how it goes with the navionics app if you have it. I have a HDS-5 but would prefer a tablet/that thing you have. Only if it is as good though.

sure no worries

it all works so far ... just need to water test it
I fired up the navionics yesterday after logging onto the sonar phone wifi
and it showed up as a split screen on the navionics ... looks like it will work well

another careel sailor I know has the system and loves it ...

i think you can have just the depth displayed net to the speed in navionics too ... see photo.

I am planning on using an old phone as a second screen with the sonar phone free app running the sonar

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a screen shot from his phone

I will let you know how it goes ... btw I got mine from amazon ...

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by elscotto » Feb 9th, '17, 21:32

Oh man that looks sweet. I will have to talk the missus into letting me get one. The lowrance hds5 is like two years old now, thats got to be old enough for an upgrade??? Surely. You blokes are with me right? 'Course you are.
My tablet can sit up the front of the cockpit (sheltered and shady) and it is large enough for me to see it from the tiller. It is also so much easier to use a touchscreen than the buttons.
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by bachus » Feb 10th, '17, 08:49

With tablets the temptation is to also place them in a waterproof jacket to be "at hand" when in the cockpit. Before doing this with your brand tablet do some forum type research. For example an iPad 3 (old and thus ideal for this) if run continuously will overheat and shut down if placed in a sealed container such as a water proof jacket.

A side note. The good thing about people taking up these transponders coupled to Navionics is that the Navionics sonar charts we can all use are updated by the data collected.
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by byrdsworth » Feb 10th, '17, 09:01

Yeah ... good advice
You are right the more boats that have this type of device ... the better navionics maps will be

I best thing IMO is being able to have multiple screens ... so you could have your big old ipad
inside the cabin within eyesight and be able to read the depth etc at a glance

I have a lowrance elite 4 chirp sounder with gps on my power boat ... it's ok ... but not touch screen
it can be a real PITA navigation menus etc ... using buttons ... it was $420 ...
I actually find that the phone navionics is more accurate than the gps with navionics card on the lowrance.
maybe the card needs to be updated

Looking forward to testing this vexilar unit ...

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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by pdandy » Feb 10th, '17, 13:10

bachus wrote:With tablets the temptation is to also place them in a waterproof jacket to be "at hand" when in the cockpit. Before doing this with your brand tablet do some forum type research. For example an iPad 3 (old and thus ideal for this) if run continuously will overheat and shut down if placed in a sealed container such as a water proof jacket..
I've been running an ipad 2 in various griffin cases for years now, and have only had it overheat when left in the car. I guess it's only water resistant, not truly waterproof, but it's been a reasonable compromise on the boat. Unfortunately not strong enough for 3 months bouncing around in the car on 4 wd tracks...but the cracked screen still works. :oops:

For what it's worth, the griffin cases will crack if you throw them from the cockpit into the cabin and miss the child / hit the keelcase....but the ipad seems to keep working .....
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Re: Smartphone sonar/depth sounder

Post by byrdsworth » Feb 26th, '17, 20:41

So ... tried the system out

did a 2 day trip from Southport to Shorncliff
through the gold coast broad water and moreton bay

it was rock solid all weekend ... can't fault it really

photo showing the depth just under the speed in the navionics app

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a few screen shots

The vexilar free app

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split screen view in navionics

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a couple of others

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